is “reason” = transferability and debatability?

Am listening to:

They seem to search for an hierarchical structure, or imagine something like that. The “reason” is under the influence of “desire”, or the other way around? Is rationality, or a rational act, something that determines choice? (ie choice is under the command of rationality?) I think that perhaps the question is of Link – is rationality linked with choice? Is rationality linked with the morning sun?
In that sense, perhaps the question of rationality is that of ability to debate? I might have a desire to be Right, however, if I find out that am wrong, will that inform my desire? Will that control it, or will that still be undebatable because am trying to rationalise my desires?
In that sense, perhaps the value of rationality is in the ability to negotiate and its transferability, and transferability between people?
Is transferability a more dynamic form of being objective?