I noticed some hebrew publications featured a story re turkey pm, erdogan, and his remark that turkey has some evidence that points towards israeli engineered coup in egypt.
As the link to what erdogan allegedly said points out, the evidence is a jew. An intellectual jew. That person, the-intellectual-jew TIJ, was heared saying that morsi, in his opinion, will not stay long in power.
Is this the kind of evidence the pm of turkey finds worthy of consideration?
Well.. perhaps yes, if the next attributed thoughts are erdogan’s, he says that TIJ did not consider elections the only mechanism in a democracy, indeed, TIJ said – according to erdogan – that people’s will is just an element, not THE only tool in a democracy. (I have learned that in 1st citizenship lesson..)
Now, not only erdogan shows himself to be a bigot full of childish, infantile and ignorant views – perhaps even mind, I think that more importantly, he shows himself as clueless about how democracy works while claiming – or pretending – to entrench democracy turkey. In fact, if he thinks democracy has nothing to do with education, civil society, separation of power – indeed critique and perhaps erosion of powers – with emancipation, with equality, etc. – all as processes that never end, then perhaps he does harbour despotic aspirations for turkey. Well, if not despotic, perhaps authoritarian and anti-democratic?
Is this the way 21st century do stuff?
Or, perhaps they could have a sort of communal authoritarianism based on fear as is exeplified by the israeli press coverage of this “story”? ie instead of questioning erdogan’s human integrity and qualities as a turkish pm and representative, he becomes just another example in a tall tale tellers about the jews.
The coup against the tyrannical/power-hungry/naive – take your pick – rule of un-elected + elected majority of religious heads in egypt has turned into a full blown bloodbath. The army shoots demonstrators, blames demonstrators, and casts fog as to what on earth is going on, and how come over 500 people get in the way of sniper bullets without noticing it.
Where are the voices of democrats now?
Where are the voices of democracies now?
The silent voices about egypt open the space for people like erdogan – who very recently didn’t hesitate to have a go at people in turkey – to posture as a friendly person concerned by civilian deaths and killing.
The meek voices that call for “calm” deprive the future moralistic ground of saying “stop!!” when the killers are not west’s bestest of friends..
The continuous tacit support for egypt’s new rulers might also pave a way for claiming democratic ways are not so very pan human. Here we have a group of murdered religious psychopaths that I, and possibly many other democratic minded people, utterly disagree with. However, is this disagreement more important than their right to live?
Is this disagreement more important than the ability to continue the dialogue around it?
We do not normally have much dialogue with dead people, and grieving communities, people who share a sense of responsibility for others who died for their cause, find it even harder to converse because of the possibility that friends died for a mistaken cause..
If we can not argue energetically for democratic processes in every human society, perhaps indeed democratic processes are not as important as we might have thought..
Do we have others?
If our democratic processes are not as important as we thought. If such processes that helped bring a culture of ever greater emancipation and equality among various social elements, if such processes that helped sorting issues among ourselves via words rather than sticks, are not relevant any more – what is there as a replacement?
I think that if we stop arguing for the pan-human – perhaps even pan-entity – bases of democratic processes, then we’ll slowly realise these processes and the culture that come with them, will shrink at home.. A bit like Kafka’s observation that 1st they go for the migrants, then the “jews”, and so, until it is You. Or a bit like the way we can witness how drones have been used upon “enemies” and are slowly being introduced in police domestic activities – I think that democratic processes erode 1st in our links with the “outside”.. Just like such links can feed greater energies when democratic processes are indeed pressed ahead with..
<!NotE!> I do think that our democratic processes are all too minimal and lacking many elements that we should do for, perhaps, better evolving them. However, just because the element is organic and evolving, does not mean the element/entity has to be killed off..
Since the army + “the people” coup ouster of Morsi last week, I didn’t feel how to question the unfolding of recent egypt based events. Today, with the blatant shootings of people – “Muslim brothers” rather than “the people” this time – by the same army, perhaps an old question of principles kicks into my mind?
When are the times – if there any – to support certain basic principles?
Throughout the last year, when the muslim brotherhood was in full power over the egyptian state – or seemed so – shooting/killing the occasional anti-government demonstrator deemed fine in their religious minds.
Throughout the past 12 months, when Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood overlords wanted to, they arrested political rivals, shut and censored media outlets and intimidated political opponents as well as people of other faiths..
During the past 12 months, the Muslim Brothers ruling egypt have forced through a constitution that instead of being for the whole, was intended – perhaps – for the majority if not the few. (hence the need to force the constitution..)
Throughout its career as a political party/entity, the muslim brotherhood – as well as other political religious organisations – show disregard or misunderstanding as to the plural and evolving nature of democracy. They seem to think democratic processes are there to support islam/any-other-faith in political power, once it has been voted in. (This is precisely how #capitalists view #democracy in the “west”, hence justifing the economic discrimination and socio-cultural segregation of dissidents. However here am trying to focus on non-numerical-exchange-based faiths. Yup, I think money requires faith as well, but its not a godly one, its much more immaterial imho.. Perhaps needs more elaboration one day..)
However, coming back to muslim brothers etc, despite – or in spite – of their failings, I think that people who do consider democracy to be for all people, and its secular way – free thinking and freedom evolving – to continuously learn how to question and evolve emancipation and equality for all, is this not the time to call for the Help of our political opponents?
If an overtly uber authoritarian party members were in a similar situation – say the nazies – would I have asked the same question? Should they not be stopped from attempting to abuse democratic processes? Use these processes when they like, dump and kill them when they don’t like?
Perhaps this proposes an even more radical and interesting question.. Maybe we, free thinking secular etc people are in a comma with the way we imagine democracy? Perhaps the democratic processes should be imagined and thought of better so that we’d feel able to extend Help and assistance to anyone who is being killed/murdered without having to feel anxious re them later on being able to hack democracy for authoritarian aims?
even after the revolution #egypt’s rulers are in a desperate need for a relaxing sex session or sense of humour http://arty.li/ZTm